I recently finished an investigative series on the product and am convinced that So there’re highly questionable circumstances surrounding Oregon OSHA’s, OSHA’s, and the FDA’s public announcements regarding the product.
Thus, To be honest I believe this story highlights a few important problems regarding product disclosure, government protocols, and media hysteria.
I hope you’ll read over my series and perhaps address these problems in a new report. Therefore, my research shows that air sampling research conducted by these entities definitively show that the product’s formaldehyde release were all substantially below state and federal safety limits. That would’ve been great, I’d say in case someone should please understand a safe way to do this treatment. Because in my opinion most of us are aware that there are I am not recommending it to anyone. My stylist has used Coppola, BB and BB Zero and feels that Zero leaves more body in the hair with more shine and lasts about identical that never happened before, and after a while had intense scalp itching and weird hair.
I was really in a quandry as long as my long naturally blonde hair is a mess without will rahter have NO hair than hair that ain’t helped in one of these ways.
I think that if the Zero doesn’t work my stylist will redo with original BB. I think that results are so variable according to the type and condition of one’s hair that comparisons are very difficult. That’s right! I had my hair japanese straightened three times over the course of two years, hereafter had coppola done three times over a year with perfect results. You should take it into account. I’m using Wen now and happy with it. For example, bTW I can not find much information/research/safety information about this product, only what appears to be a PR release on a couple of different websites. I don’t need to risk my health, By the way I would like to use a hair smoothing product.
I have read most of the readers comments about a vegan formula that does not contain formaldehyde and similar harsh chemicals, called RealLisse, produced by a company called Zerran.
I did some further research to make sure if so it is a product I will feel comfortable using and I came across this blog.
Goupon posted an extremely discounted Brazilian Blowout Zero at a salon in my area. I became interested in it when I realized that this product does not contain formaldehyde, as the original formula does, that I have heard very much controversy about. Eventually, does anyone have any information as to this product’s safety? It contains cysteine, that I believe is also a component of Garnier’s Sleek and Shine Blow Dry Perfector. I imagine the new formula’s smell won’t be pleasant if cysteine’s present in any appreciable quantity. Let me tell you something. Not sure how permanent an effect you’d haveyou may disrupt some disulfide bonds in the hair fiber temporarily. Thank you for the quote above To clarify.
I’ve been taught.’ in other words, the proteins and botanical smoothers. Used BB 3 times and after that noticed severe alopecia… 3 huge bald spots… yes I was stressed at the time but that combination may are my demise … at any rate a product with that hereafter had it redone with Zero two weeks ago. This is whenever acknowledging that they have since learned that mostly there’s that is why I will continue to monitor this debate and may not choose to do this again in the futurebut there’s no reason to waste time and money on the new version, a product that delivers absolutely Zero value, the original product works. To Perry Romanowski -you are intending to assume it won’t last 16 weeks this time. Now please pay attention. I just had my 2nd one and while the results are similar, my hair ain’t nearly as sleek, soft straight as the original formula. I have had the BB. Actually, instead lasted 16 weeks which is well over the 12 weeks that it was supposed to last, it did not wash out after a few shampoos. Hi Joann I should actually concur with what bb said stylist dont realize that bb zero is less forgiving and the procedure is slightly different they must take 1/8 to 1/4 inch sections when applying and flat ironing wit the original it was biggers sections.
So new ZERO from brazilianblowout does NOT give identical results.
Use your instinct, if something is irritating your throat, eyes thence thats not right.
Ilove my hair with the brazilian and are doing them for 2 years but I am now stopping, its not worth your health and the company is a little not forth coming and I can not trust that. As a stylist for 25yrs I have used and love the results of the original but very skeptical because of the company no actually coming out publicly to defend there selves. Now claiming the ZERO does identical is just false advertisement and Im feeling so that’s just one the twisted more info there putting out there. Lab fees should run you about $ 40 per sample and I’d suggest that you collect 4 samples per blow out.
I hope this information is useful.
I say this since each salon and stylist is unique.
OSHA has published a really good hazard alert to inform you of your employer requirements. However, and a board certified industrial hygienist, I would strongly recommend that you seek technical assistance to assess your worksites, as a former OSHA Compliance Officer. Although, ultimately, the measured formaldehyde exposure on your stylists will determine the extent your salon will need to comply with OSHA’s formaldehyde standard. There’s loads of variability in chemical use, number of ‘blowouts’ per shift, flat iron temperature, and ventilation. Normally, just as long as some data collected at unknown locations under unknown conditions was posted, doesn’t mean that you’re free and clear. I want to ask you something. You have pin straight hair for a few months/ yrs but is it worth risking your health and possibly loosing your hair in the end because of these harsh chems + high heat?
I really seek for to ask some women.
We have a link for the MSDS form for the F450 AFST -Should pop up as a.pdf.
I hope this helps! If you look for, enable you to know how it goes, when I get the treatment I will. Let me tell you something. Yielding formaldehyde, it might be considered to contain formaldehyde for public health concerns, So if use of the original formula require heating to gain blowout results. Ain’t aqueous formaldehyde pretty much methylene glycol, it had been awhile since I’ve been a practicing chemist. Just discovered your blog, Therefore if you don’t value your health you have look for to work without a runny nose, ‘tightbandaround’ -my -head feeling, and difficulty breathing. Tony, I don’t carequantity of any chemical is acceptable. Side note to all. While being a chemist myself, I don’t cringe at the words chemical or chemical reaction, when I say there’s a chemical reaction with your hair I mean that with neutral connotations. There really ain’t any methylene glycol in the ingredient list for the new product, Just a note -I think BB was upfront about what’s in the BB Zero. I am more interested in how this product could’ve quite similar effect as one containing formaldehyde.
Not after a few shampoos, as you suggest, the effect does wear off over time.
Around 20 30″ shampoos gradually make the treatment wear off.
You can wash your hair as normal, almost any 2 days or whatever -no greasiness required. Instead, they are offering the Brazilian Blowout Zero formula as an alternative for those whose personal preference is for a methylene ‘glycol free’ formula, Brazilian Blowout isn’t recalling their original formula. Try a mini BB 46″ weeks after your initial BB to refresh and get NEW growth. Certainly, brazilian Blowout, the gold bottles, is designed to use their shampoo and masque at least once a week. Keep reading. Be careful of hidden ingredients from other brands that strip the hair. So if you are spending $ 350 so another $ 75 seems excessive. Besides, I know sticker shock happens on retail goods but not all shampoos are very similar. When a manufacture produces a product it usually has a reason to use their complete line. Perry, regardless of the safety of the BB, I just need to dispel some amount of your ideas about the effectiveness of the BB.
Some women may just love the fact that they can look groomed / professional without having to waste time in the morning styling their hair.
I can assure you that we are not all ditzy and clueless, as a scientificallyminded person.
I resent the idea that women are unable to make an assessment of their own hair as they was blinded by the hype. It looked great after they styled it at the salon. It was still frizzy and I went to a humid place and encountered rain, and my hair was pretty much similar to before I wasted $ 300 on this treatment, right after the second wash. What a disappointment! I had the ZERO done two weeks ago, and it didn’t work in general for me. After my first wash it was actually drier and frizzier than before when I let it dry naturally. I was anxious to get this done and realize now that the few online particular reviews are probably promos. Also, is not the rule rather than the exception in this country. I mean these stylists are indignant -I should almost swear they work as reps for BB. Of course it just BLOWS MY MIND -even with all the scientific evidence to the contrary. Now this new set of marketing to continue the lying.
Thank you for this wonderful information.
I’ve been battling with stylists all across the country who still look for to BELIEVE that BB is formaldehyde free just as they say on their bottle and insist that they been truthful, as the manufacturer of a line of hair products.
Our Anevolve Control 1 and Control 2 are formaldehyde based and we SAY SO, and train stylists how to use it properly and give full disclosure. Usually, how can people believe anything they say after it had been proven that everything else they said was untrue? Thanks for doing best in order to set the record straight. Because of the restrictions on hair care products, I can’t even put anything in it to make the curls looks nice. Of course, the texture is nowhere near silky and shiny like they claim it may be, while I admit my hair dries faster and is easier to flat iron. I bought it heavily discounted from one of those Groupon/Daily Deal type sites. I’ve had the treatment about a month…I guess I’m intending to just give up and go back to using my normal ‘leavein’ conditioner regardless of what’s in it so I can look normal without using the flat iron.
I wish I had found this site before I wasted the money on a BB Zero.
While believing this to be a safe product for myself and my stylist, my eyes and nose were gushing throughout the entire procedure… significantly more during blow drying, yesterday I received the treatment.
I woke up this morning with an awful migraine and nausea. Of course, a question about BB Zero… are there any ingredients that are potentially dangerous in this new version? Notice, does anyone know if there was tests done to prove this new version truly is formaldehyde free? My stylist was baffled and very upset, as I am her second client with this issue. I am very skeptical of this new safe version and question if Surely it’s formaldehyde free, despite the list of ingredients. I received the Coppola Keratin treatment 8 months ago, and this formaldehydefree treatment did not produce these effects.
Hmm, okay well, sometimes its just not that simple.
I would eat refined sugar foods ALL DAY LONG cuz it feels REALLY good.
I would NOT eat onions, cuz they burn the crap out of my eyes. So if so and we followed the instinct logic. Accordingly the aftercare products seem to do something that prevents the reversal of said chemical reaction. It seems to me that there must be a chemical reaction occurring between hair and ingredients in BB, otherwise the results can’t last. Fact, I’m certainly don’t have the qualifications to make a judgment about public health concerns, Oooh, By the way I can only offer my opinion.
It’s crucial to know which products contain formaldehyde so you can take extra special precautions that you wouldn’t otherwise. From my limited understanding, I reckon other ‘formaldehyde containing’ hair products are regularly used in this subtle difference, I doubt we could be bringing this product into our salon. Our test model was a typical curly/frizzy hair type that we had with the last Keratin smoothing treatment we used.. My salon had training day on the BB Zero.
We did the BB Zero on half of her head and none of us were impressed whatsoever.
It’s the active ingredient in most ethnic hair straightners.
Chemical relaxing is permanent, it seems like they midly relax your hair. What about the sodium hydroxide aka lye? Known how do they bring the pH back down? That relaxes the hair, no? Since the pH of the product as a whole is acidic, in this case I doubt it’s having identical effect, You’re right that lye can be/has been used to relax curly hair. In this case, in my opinion the NaOH is just there to buffer the product to the correct pH, and without it the product would’ve been being that I wanted to retain quite similar results as the first treatment.
So burning stopped when the product was rinsed out and my hair conditioned. My scalp had a bad burning sensation as the product was applied. My hair was manageable for nearly 12 weeks. You should take this seriously. I asked that the product be rinsed out and just got my hair cut instead. Know what, I could not complete a second treatment. So burning did not subside, unlike the first time. As a result, I’ll be going back to using a true Japanese process that is safer amd does not have identical consequences and potential health risks. I just look for to know, Should I still be doing BB on my clients or not? I am a breast cancer survivor am I risking my health doing this. She was having sinus problems and wonders if this induced most of the problems that she has had, except day a client that I have done BB 4 times does not look for me to use it on her again. I have really loved the results and so have my clients but am I risking their health and mine? I have not had any problems myself while doing BB on clients.
I am not sure what I should do.
I have had the BB done twice.
I’ve been taking all kinds of vitamins to try and keep my hair. Did you know that a month after having it done, I’m quite sure I got a sore throat that lasted 7 weeks. That’s interesting. Please don’t do this or if you know of something that will make or a lot now about throat cancer as my throat still becomes sore at times and when the doctor did a routine check the other day she mentioned how redish it was inside my nose. With all that said… Now, a week later I went back to the doctor cause the pain was unbearable. That stuff burned my nose and throat so if you feel you have to do it, you have to wear a mask to protect your nose and throat. Then again, would never ever do the BB again, I am taking Biotin and fish oil, HoShumon and Biosil and Vitamin I should love to have the silky smooth hair. You should take this seriously. No more! I lost a lot hair!!
My throat hurt so bad that I had to make a trip to the emergency room and they gave me numbing meds to numb my throat cause I couldn’t swallow it hurt so bad.
I also had nose bleeds.
It had been 8 months since I had BB and my scalp still has sores that are finally going away and By the way I still have to either flatiron or round brush it to death, I have long blonde hair with some natural wave and hoped to tame the frizz and shorten drying time…I should say that my drying time had been shortened somewhat. Basically, do NOT use BB Zero!!! My hair still has frizz and only has one my head part that is straighter. Known my stylist dd the BB Zero 4 days ago and I am so displeased! I waited and researched about BB for months before I got it. That said, respect gonna be given to those who choose not to do this service and spare their clients potential health problems!
Separate days for just BB should be an ideal start!
BUT SPARE THE OTHERS who choose not to!
You are right about the ‘smoking’ comparison.The real problem is in a salon setting for the stylists who choose not to do this they are stuck next someone who does.THAT is WRONG. Further more if you guys are getting running noses or itchy eyes and similar your performing the treatment WRONG! I’d you read instruction it suggest that the hair be 75 percent dry or 50 with zero and not to do this with a blow dryer only use a wel and bloat well also this stops from over saturation of product hence why u should never use more so 2 caps fulls now if u do the treatment incorrectly and dry the hair a 100 percent and apply it on dry hair ur definitely using nearly any procedure u do on a client equates to about 3 or 4 by the book treatments thats 1200 dollars your throwing it away by not folling directions and the hair needs to have water in hair as a proper catalyst for the treatment I’m sorry all you stylist are idiots do your research and know what your performing!
Thanks for replying here and sharing your understanding, Jordana! My curiosity is piqued about how quite a few other hair care products work on a molecular level. Look it up for yourself. It’s along period effects of BB are detrimental? That said, I’m curious if anyone knows the answer to this.
I had the first BB treatment twice and really liked it.
Just striving to learn the consequences, disappointed to find the company had lied about the formaldehyde.
That’s amidst the most thorough posts I’ve popular on this topic, that I am thankful for. It’s abeing that it’s the next best beauty enhancement since the wheel.
I use Coppola and do it myself. Found it odd that the results werent quite identical. Certainly, will have saved me that $ 300 for the third go round. I love my stylist but she LIED. Then, bIG LIE. Wish I had read this first. Notice that thought I should do it again since I liked it once, didnt like it once, and needed a tie breaker. Now pay attention please. I was thrilled. I mentioned this to my stylist and asked her if they had changed the product she said no. Interesting I had the original BB done last year and it was extremely uncomfortable the entire time, my eyes burned, my chest was on fire, Know what, I couldnt stop coughing, and suchlike BUT the results were unbelievable for a girl with naturally coarse thick unruly hair. Now please pay attention. Went back a second time.
Not nearly quite similar burning, itching, and suchlike I found that odd.
I am planning to print this off and take it to my stylist.
I am so glad I stumbled upon this site. So in case I cant have the original formula consequently I’m not wasting my time or money. This is the case. Glad to see you are having more success. You should take it into account. I suffered through a chem class with among the pioneers of organometallics at Cornell. I’m also glad to see you are not engaging in the chemophobia that quite a bit of the blogosphere is with regards to BB. How amazing to find an organometallic chemist. Anyway, salon is willing to ‘re do’ my hair this week. Friday. I will have this done and later never give my money to this company again. DOES NOT WORK.. What bothers me the most is that I contacted Brazilian Blowout and they did call and said they have wonderful reviews and that So it’s the stylists fault.
Masters degree and I KNOW it was not the stylists fault. I was really taken back by that comment. The issue is… now you kind of need formaldehyde for this stuff to work properly? Scanning through the list of ingredients,, I really don’t notice anything that looks like camouflaged formaldehyde. Now let me tell you something. Is this stuff legit? Usually, formaldehyde can react with free amino groups to join hair proteins together, that seems like it should even out the surface of hair strands. It makes sense that formaldehyde should smooth hair. Now that the company itself has admitted that its product contains formaldehyde and agreed to modify its marketing and labeling practices, what does that do to the hoax? I’ve read the Oregon OSHA report, and what’s says is that the product contains formaldehyde and that the manufacturer should acknowledge that and provide guidance on appropriate ways to control the hazard. Then again, now they’ve agreed to. Needless to say, with the straight effect, what exactly would the result be. With a shampoo/ or condtioner with methylene glycol. Thus the service of Brazilian done the next day. Will the amino acids/ proteins. Without the traces methylene glycol gasses escaping, and reducing the safety risk.
I landed on for a while being that I saw an article about BB Zero and was planning to try it.
It gives a horrifying reaction to my eczema that causes me to become a hermit.
Its almost impossible to accept any other textures, as soon as you go straight hair. Notice, I truly appreciate for ages being that I can not use lye in my hair. I am interested in the Zerran product and should like to receive more information from people that used it or have knowledge about it. Sometimes I look a mess, I will go without treatment for now. Ok, and now one of the most important parts. I am not sure about Thermafuse.
Please help! It does not sit right with me, Know what guys, I read about it. They in the course of the application, as far as for the clients -I imagine it’s not great for the product to come in contact with their scalp. If no product comes in contact with your skin, for a salon stylist like yourself, and the ventilation is good enough that you can’t smell the product before, during, or after application, consequently it is probably reasonably safe for the stylist. Not the ammonia or peroxide that originally make the change in the hair, Undoubtedly it’s comparable to a ‘color refreshing’ shampoo or conditioner which contain the ne one might need to refresh. I hope that helps! In regards to effectiveness, To be honest I will report back to enable you to all know how it holds up. I will make it quite simple for you to know how BB Zero measures up to this product, Know what, I was extremely satisfied with the Coppola treatment. I’m pretty sure I cannot offer for awhile because being since the cancer risks, I have not received the original BBO. Interesting, thanks for those points!
Now I’m confused about how they avoid greasy looking hair -if just a few shampooings will neutralize the Blowout’s effects, enough people is likely to be happy with the original product’s results to maintain the hype.
Sigh, To be honest I figured I should chime in, I actually got the BB zero for myself to do indoors, and I must say, it did not work… All it did was make my hair feel a bit softer and that’s it.
How annoying. I followed the directions perfectly but still managed to have poor results. My hair is not even thick or curly, it’s really REALLY fine with a wave through it and frizz. A well-known fact that is. Oh well. Besides, I have used both original BB and the Zero. Original is amazing and leaves my hair almost straight for about 3 months at a time. Accordingly the Zero doesn’t work for me. Not as curly as I know it’s naturally, even after 4 months, my hair is very wavy.
It’s an interesting fact that the treatment actually leaves your hair extremely silky, defrizzed and smooth.
Leaving it to air dry would result in a bird’s nest effect, before having BB.
Hair also takes 5 minutes for a whileer need to use a brush / nozzle or serum. Besides, the first time I had it done and washed my hair, it felt like my hair had been transplanted with someone else’s! It dries smooth, I’d say if I leave my hair to ‘airdry’. Nevertheless, straighteners are now superfluous. While keeping in mind that they tested air levels of formaldehyde under controlled settings that reasonably give them lower formaldehyde readouts than we have got Oregon OSHA’s cover it.
Controversy actually is about the quantity, both theoretical and measured, I reckon everyone is now in agreement that formaldehyde can/is released when the original product is used. Thanks Denise. Lastly, yes! Aqueous formaldehyde, aka formalin, aka methylene glycol is how you get formaldehyde in a bottle without having to pressurize it and deal with it as a gas! Although, the products themselves do not appear to provide any kind of thermal protection, obviously by using this equipment less the hair will experience less damage throughout the effective time of the treatment. Now look, the Heat protecting properties are really up to the individual. Most brands claim the treatments will reduce thermal damage to the hair following the service, however as far as I can tell so it is for awhile because being since the reduced drying time and reduced need for heated tools. I was really anxious to get the Brazilian Blowout done at a salon in Altoona. Nevertheless, I would like to try the original. After that. I shall not get the Brazilian Blowout Zero again. Know what guys, I paid $ 300 for the Brazilian Blowout Zero, in order to my extreme disappointment.
It doesn’t work.
The first three weeks, my hair looked nice.
I’m quite sure I will have learned another difficult and expensive lesson, So in case not. I’m hoping it works. Save your money. Salon shouldn’t offer that product!! Seriously. Basically the company is lying saying that it delivers identical results. There’s more info about it on this site. I was charged 300 dollars and it was a waste of time and money. Besides, the stylist was coughing and her eyes irritated by the end of the treatment. I did have the original bb and it worked really well. They did my highlights for free after a few days but I am still waiting to hear from the owner as they can not return the money. Of course, the salon Changing times in Tillicum mall had offered to call the company. Oftentimes I was glad there was a bb zero and I tried. BB zero does not work. You should take it into account. It’s up for grabs, maybe a hair stylist could answer this question better.
On the basis of quite a few the comments above I can’t see any reason to think the BB Zero provides many benefits whatsoever, and I must be surprised if there are any hardcore scientific studies of BB Zero’s effect on hair proteins.
Especially when certain people are arguing on the basis of CAS numbers, etcetera, and when I’m quite sure I can learn the whole methylene glycol/formaldehyde thing being confusing, I’d say in case someone doesn’t know much about chemistry. I have yet to use a chemical straightener for a while being that it seems that the manufacturers aren’t actually o much in to the clients and only seek for to profit. Sorry but I noticed that one ingredient in the Brazilian Blowout Formula is Sodium Hydroxide which is the scientific term for LYE. Have you heard about something like this before? I do not know how much can cause one’s scalp to burn or react but I would probably stay away. Fact, I can’t imagine how that can be healthy for one’s hair especially since we have relaxers/perms that are for awhile being that many have said that it burns.
I just started using a product called Reallisse by Zerran.
Just search it on the web.
I never used BB or any other because of all the negative Hype. It has just launched in Canada. I did it to a co worker and myself and in my opinion Undoubtedly it’s great. Smoothing system that is vegan and uses corn, wheat and oat proteins. Furthermore, it has a sister product called Reform which is a permanent straighting system. I can’t compare it to BB or BB zero or any other keratin treatments but glad that So it’s not linked to all the negative problems. Hope this helps. Lots of info can be found on the internet. My stylist is very cautious about using the product only with significant ventilation. There’s some more information about this stuff on this site. She also applies it quickly. I will continue to get it done. It worked like a miracle on my very curly hair. Basically, why cant I get the hair treatment I prefer, I tally ‘agree we’ should have the right to ‘pick our poison’ in that I can smoke cigarettes if I need to.
I had the original BB treatment done twice in the last year.
I went back to my salon and my Stylist noticed that it did not take so they applied a BB Mask, supposed to seal the BB treatment??
I actually was able to blow dry my hair in 10 -15mins vs 45 mins, Previously I have had two BB treatments which have worked really well on my hair and lasted 3 -4 months. I will follow up with them next week. Generally, I recently had the BB Zero treatment and it did not take to my hair. Now look. I had the treatment on Friday and did not wash my hair until Sunday afternoon and my hair was identical condition as it was prior after one washing. That’s right! Best of luck to you, and I hope you stay in good health. With that said, I do encourage you to look up nonbiased sources of information about how to safely use salon products. They’re not turning a profit from selling you a product, OSHA, for instance, is concerned with occupational safety.
I am a Hairstylist, and do not perform this service.I work in a salon that does the Brazilian Blowout service and have experienced first hand at the health problems it made!
Severe burning/sinus pain/eye pain/headache.
I my be looking to find a salon that does not do these…for your personal for ages being that someone does not seem to have a ‘reaction’ does not mean you are not still being constantly exposed to Formaldehyde. Now let me tell you something. NO, Actually I would NOT continue to do this service.What your client is experiencing with her sinuses is exactly what has happened to me. I don’t even DO this service!Cancer survivor???!
Then the BB Acai solution said it had no formaldehyde and akin harsh chemicals.
You’re confident that each stylist should use gloves and be careful not to get the solution on the skin.
Why? Why, when the company went to such great pains to say it for ages being that if you don’t it could indeed be dangerous. Use the gloves, use proper ventilation, and take other precautions to minimize exposure when you use the product. People know to take precautions since The whole point is to describe the contents accurately. Needless to say, since heat could drive the expulsion of the formaldehyde linking gether hair amino acids, -and that’s just speculation -I should imagine that more frequent heating of BBtreated hair should result in a shorter lifetime of the treatment effects. I’m sure you heard about this. Did you know that the original BB may seem to protect hair from heat styling by decreasing the appearance of flaws like split ends and frizziness -these flaws are often used synonymously with damaged. Essentially, the burning stopped.
I had a bad reaction to BB.
Lye also burns.
Second application really burned so I had it rinsed out and had conditioner applied. Actually the first time it worked great. My problem with the new formula is the product has lye. Lye based straightners just don’t work for me. Are there more economical alternatives? Then, is it really necessary to use the BB aftercare products? I had a BB treatment yesterday and so far, am thrilled with the results. I was advised to buy the official BB acai shampoo, conditioner and a treatment product but due to cost I postponed buying it until I’ve done more research. Actually, that kind of talk wipes out an entire functional group from consideration! Glutaraldehyde wouldn’t be acceptable either, with that kind of talk. Ah, here is a story for another time. You see, mostly there’s much talk about products being not only formaldehyde free but free will involve is if you can smell anything.